Socratic Origins

Preliminary Concept:

After the siege of Jerusalem in 587 B.C., most of the Jews of Jerusalem were taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar and taken to Babylon. One cannot assume that all of the Jews suffered such destruction that lived in other areas. It is more rational that many Jews would have migrated as far north as Ephesus and as far south as Alexandria before the siege. If they migrated east they would be in Babylon or if farther distance in Europe, the philosophy of the Jews there would not be a dominating thought.

The last wave of Jews moving to Egypt was in the aftermath of the waves of pogroms that hit Europe in the latter part of the 19th century. This was the latest Jewish nation before the state of Israel. A more ancient migration to Alexandria was during the King Ptolemy I dynasty from 305 BC to 30 BC. This is obviously after the siege of Jerusalem. Before that, the Jewish or Hebrew culture basically originated in Egypt. Circumcision there dates back as far as the constructions of the pyramids. A current Egyptian guide was sure to point this out in a tour of the pyramids in 2012.

It is known that there have been a substantial Jewish community in Asia Minor since at least the 5th century BC and when St Paul visited Ephesus around 53 AD there was a Jewish community at Ephesus for over three hundred years, but the exact date of the establishment of Jewish community in Ephesus is not known. From this we have Jews in the North and the south after the siege of Jerusalem. The two areas were strongholds sufficient to influence philosophy. Jews were elsewhere, but they were often exiled further causing them to refrain from teaching their philosophy openly.

Socrates was born around about 469 B.C. This was about 100 years after the siege of Jerusalem. This was the birth period of many new generations of Jews after the siege. Born in Athens, Greece, one should realize that Athens is only 55 miles east by sea to Ephesus.

In ancient Jewish history, Athens occupied a position of secondary importance, especially when compared to Alexandria, Rome, and other known cities in Asia Minor such as Ephesus. The relations between Athens and Palestine can be traced as far back as the beginning of the sixth century B.C. Large quantities of broken pieces of ceramic have been found in various places in the region, exposed during the Persian era’s economic influence of Athens. These visages were related to a dialect of the Greek. Coins minted during the occupation of Judea by Persian governors were inscribed “Yahud,” and had the image of an owl imprinted upon them, bearing a definite likeness to that of the Greek monetary unit.

We know the life Socrates through the writings of his students, including Plato and Xenophon. His "Socratic method," laid the groundwork for Western systems of logic and philosophy, but philosophy does not trace the origin of ideas like linguistics studies the origin and path of language. Every idea has its own origin. Christianity and the Muslim religion were non-existent. All we have is the Egyptian, Hebrew and Greek intellect in the region. The odds of the Socratic method coming from the Hebrew method are greater than ancient Greek polytheism. Since Socrates referenced a monotheistic god the conclusion is the Socratic method comes from the Hebrew method. That is the fundamental premise of this section.

When the political climate of Greece turned, Socrates was sentenced to death by hemlock poisoning in 399 BC. He accepted this judgment rather than fleeing into exile. His acceptance is reminiscent of the Hebrew prophets more than that of Gentile thinking. This would imply that he lived about 70 years if 469 B.C. was his birth. One who is condemned at that age may very well feel it self-centered to take and escape. Since it is generally considered that all of the later Hebrew prophets of the Old Testament where prior to about 445 B.C., Socrates would not be a by-product of their thinking. You have to understand that current writings of the time rarely reached the populace until many years later after the rabbinical schools could transcribe and disseminate the latest informative prophecy. Socrates would most likely obtain his education from prior religious works or from philosophers before him.

Speaking of prior works, consider that Pythagoras, who had to be circumcised before entering the secret orders of the priests of Egypt. After receiving his training in an area south of Alexandria, where the orders seemed to exist away from metropolitan areas, as did the Essenes.  Pythagoras returned to his native island, Samos, where he established his own order for a short time, after which he migrated to Croton, Italy in 540 B.C. where his school order grew to enormous proportions, until his final expulsion from that country. Thales (about 640 B.C.) who had also received his education in Egypt had associates, Anaximander, and Anaximenes that were natives of Ionia, just above Ephesus in Asia Minor, which was a stronghold of the Egyptian schooling as well as Hebrew teaching. This is according to Sandford's The Mediterranean World, p. 195–205). Similarly other Greek philosophers leaned from the mysteries of Egypt. Pythagoras was privy to the Hebrew Method of numbers. Socrates then would be a by-product of these philosophers if not a by-product of the Hebrew Mysteries from Alexandria.

The Socratic method comes from priests in Egypt, or from Hebrew teachings dating back to Egypt and thus the philosophy of Western Civilization comes out of Egypt and not Greece. It is hard to understand, let alone accept that the Egyptian mysteries were held by secret orders that extended from the time of the Great Pyramid. Even harder to accept is that the Pyramid was the Great Tower built from the knowledge of Noah. These secret orders preserved the knowledge of planetary orbits and advanced mathematics for which we too often attribute to the Greeks. It becomes extremely interesting how darkness as to the origins of philosophy pervades even to our time. The same is with the less secretive Jews of tradition, who held that the Great Tower was an evil attempt to reach heaven.

Plato: ………

Xenophon: …………

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